228 Responses to “De-mystifying the CRB check”

1. debbie says:

   May 21, 2012 at 2:14 pm

   Hi

   6 years ago i was going through a bad patch and wanted revenge on my family and stole 2 cheques which my step father faroced my mother to report to the police and therefore was arrested and cautioned. I have no further contact with my family and moved on got a steady job and recently applied for a casual receptionist at a leisure witht he local authority. I have received my CRB check and now worrying whether will affect my the job applied for and currrent employment. Help need your advice.

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   • David Wacks says:

     May 22, 2012 at 8:29 am

     Hi Debbie,

     As regards your present employment your only concern is if they had asked you if you have had any such problems and you had denied it when getting the job. For any new employment, this will come up on a CRB so be prepared to reveal this on any interview.

     Best of luck

     David Wacks
     0161 278 2626

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2. Mandy says:

   May 15, 2012 at 11:39 am

   Hi,
   I have a couple of petty convictions from many years ago ie were shoplifting and one for having cannabis plant.I have been offered a job cleaning in a school just wondering who has access in the school to my CRB results Thanks Mandy

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   • David Wacks says:

     May 22, 2012 at 8:26 am

     Hi Mandy,

     It will be up to each school to decide who within the school needs to know of your record if they take you on. I suggest you emphasise what you have done since then, and if you get the job, ask your manager as to what people know.

     Best of Luck

     David Wacks
     0161 278 2626

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3. Beth says:

   May 1, 2012 at 12:22 am

   Hi

   When i was 15 i was in the wrong place at the wrong time and in a house were a man was arrested and charged with intent to supply. as i was present in the same house i was also taken to the police station arrested and held on police bail. although in the end they couldnt charge me as i wasnt guilty of anything. Would this show up on a enhanced crb, it has been 5 years now since tha happend.

   thank you =)

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   • David Wacks says:

     May 2, 2012 at 9:39 am

     Hi Beth, Unfortunately, it is likely that your arrest would appear on an Enhanced CRB Report. However, it is possible to dispute this.

     For further free confidential advice on this please call me on 0161 278 2626

     Regards,

     David Wacks

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4. vee henderson says:

   April 13, 2012 at 4:41 pm

   Hi there… my partner has just served a 7 week sentence for embezzlement within his last employment. he has been in his current job for almost a year and as he had no charges at the time of applying for his new job never disclosed anything. He was taken to court and advised he would be given community service and made to pay it back. however he got given a custodial sentence and was immediately put into prison. therefore his job had given him unpaid absence as we bent the truth slightly about why he was in prison until he was able to talk with them himself. now he is home he has had a meeting with them and they wish to give him a disciplinary pending investigation. my question is , when they do a disclosure on him, will the charge only show up or will it go into depth of detail about the charge and everything else? we’re unsure how much details the check will disclose or will it just give the charge and the sentence he was given? thank you
   vee

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5. louise says:

   April 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm

   hi my partner needs a crb check and is worried, he was done for GBH at the age of 13 after hitting back at a bully unfortunately he also hit a police officer. he is now 44 also 8 years ago his ex wife phone the police whilst he was in bed and told them he had hit her and he was taken into custody for the night but not charged with anything however his ex wife got a restraining order , this was later overturned by a judge and one given in his favor. will these show up on a check? he has applied for a job with a cleaning company that cleans schools.

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   • David Wacks says:

     April 10, 2012 at 9:55 am

     Hi Louise,

     Your partners Conviction or Caution at the age of 13 is likely to come up on an Enhanced Disclosure search. If it was only a Caution an Application can be made to remove this although it is difficult.

     If it is a Conviction, it will come up even now although “spent”.

     The problem with his wife is likely to come up on an Enhanced Disclosure, but if it does an application can be made to review that.

     If you do want further advice which is both free and confidential please call me.

     David Wacks
     0161 278 2626

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6. Gavin says:

   March 17, 2012 at 3:22 pm

   Hi,i have several offences for fighting and criminal damage the last been in 2007(5 yrs ago) yet i am a fulltime dad,have a sia licence and im currently working has a college caretaker..im awaitng a enhanced crb check has ive got a new job working nights at a hostel with kids..ive obviously changed my ways but im still a little worried but would i have my sia and caretaker job in the first place if im gunna fail a check?. thanks

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   • David Wacks says:

     April 2, 2012 at 8:44 am

     Hi Gavin,

     I am delighted that you have a job, but do fear your old conviction will come up on an Enhanced Search even though, depending on your sentence, it may be spent for most other purposes.

     If so, it is usually best to be up front but if you or other readers do want any initial free telephone advice please call me on my NEW direct line number 0161 278 2626.

     Regards
     David Wacks

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7. Louise says:

   March 10, 2012 at 11:14 pm

   Hi I’m currently awaiting to hear if I have got a job in an IT company doing work on customer financing. As part of this because you have access to financial data a CRB check is done.
   18 years ago when I was 18 I was caught stealing and just given a police warning. Would it be a basic CRB check or enhanced? And will this show up on any of these?

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   • David Wacks says:

     March 21, 2012 at 7:07 am

     Hi Louise, Unfortunately this will come up on any CRB. If you can show “exceptional circumstances” the Police may remove a Caution.

     I am a Solicitor, if you require a free initial consultation you can call me on 0161 862 9103

     Regards
     David Wacks

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8. SHAUN says:

   March 5, 2012 at 6:21 pm

   I have have had many CRB checks for position I have worked in, However I feel I am never going to be allowed to put my past behind me, I got into trouble as a young man, last offence over 30 years ago! nothing to do with children or sexual offences, simply some fights as a young man defending myself. Ironicly I was abused as a child, and the defence mechanism I develloped was one as a source of protection from people wanting to hurt me, I must add, none of the abuse was from my family, it was neighbours, so I became my own champion, unfortunatly this caused me issues with the law, as defending ones self from sex offenders of bullies is the same thing, someone wishing to harm me, so I have a criminal record because of it, because as a child someone ABUSED ME, so now I have to live with it, but they never put the good stuff in a file and keep it till your dead do they, like as a young man I helped the Police, had a reward from the courts, had a commendation from the sherriff of Yorkshire, have done years of vol work with Phobics and Heroin users, I have a life membership from the Millenium commission, but all that means nothing really does it. And remember some companies will try con you OF £55.96 FOR AN ADVANCED ONE, HERE ARE THE PRICES YOU SHOULD PAY.Many thanks for your time, and by the way, I went on to be a highly qualified Hypnotherapist, NLP EFT and full Holistic therapist. I survived, but I do think some old offences should be archived and left that way.

   Enhanced checks cost £36 and Standard checks cost £31.
   If you are working with kids then everything you’ve ever been convicted of will show up. They are then usually checked every 3 years.

   You can get all the info at http://www.crb.gov.uk

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9. SHAUN says:

   March 5, 2012 at 6:13 pm

   Dont pay over the odds, CRB advanced is only 36 pounds, a std one is 32 pounds, so make sure you either get your own from a google search or let them know you know how much they reallllllly do cost.

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10. SHAUN says:

    March 5, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    I have have had many CRB checks for position I have worked in, However I feel I am never going to be allowed to put my past behind me, I got into trouble as a young man, last offence over 30 years ago! nothing to do with children or sexual offences, simply some fights as a young man defending myself. Ironicly I was abused as a child, and the defence mechanism I develloped was one as a source of protection from people wanting to hurt me, I must add, none of the abuse was from my family, it was neighbours, so I became my own champion, unfortunatly this caused me issues with the law, as defending ones self from sex offenders of bullies is the same thing, someone wishing to harm me, so I have a criminal record because of it, because as a child

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11. cheryl says:

    March 4, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    how would i know that my employer had really do a CRB check on me…coz when i apply for a job as a support worker, they employ me straight away, and been on my own going to client’s houses after 2 days of being with someone for shadowing. and after that something like 10 days working, i left the job because they dont pay me properly like mileage when travelling from client to client, and then i let my employer knows that i decided not to work with them, and she said i’m going to be paying for the CRB check.so how would I know that she’s really done it? or she had paid for my CRB?

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12. Andy says:

    March 3, 2012 at 4:41 am

    I recently had an enhanced CRB check which came back clear and am already working for the organisation concerned. My CRB was clear, but management and some of my colleagues have been treating me differently since it came through as if they have other concerns. The only thing I can put this down to is the fact I had quite bad depression many years ago and may well have been considered a risk to myself. I never told them about that as it was well in the past. There was no police invovement. Do these checks involve mental health services and if so, exactly how far do they go? What rights do I have?

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13. Emmer says:

    February 29, 2012 at 9:45 am

    Is there anything i can do with regards to my caution?
    I am very confused why its a issue now six years later suppose to when it first happenend?
    Ive never been in trouble since or before,
    i was also led to believe that after a certain amount of time it wasnt allowed to be used against you?
    Ive been honest in all my job applications and explained how i came around to recieving it, but it seems “the local authorities” are branding me the candy man regardless
    Its soul destroying i wont lie
    Any advice would be greatful

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    • David Wacks says:

      March 2, 2012 at 2:28 pm

      Hi Emmer, It may be possible to persuade the Police to remove a Caution. The first is if there is a proven procedural defect, eg, a Caution given to an infant without a solicitor or parent being present, and the second, in what they deem “exceptional circumstances”. I have succeeded in a similar “domestic dispute” but it depends upon the detail of every case and how a particular Police Force reacts to it. As a Solicitor dealing with these matters I do give a free initial telephone advice if you wish on 0161 862 9103

      David Wacks

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14. Ryan says:

    February 28, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    My friend is working with children, her employer started her without a CRB check, Will she be in trouble or is it the responsibility of the employer to carry out a CRB. What is the consequence for her and the employer

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15. Sally says:

    February 27, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    Hi

    I am really worried, to the point I am not sleeping! I have been working as a Training Assessor, delivering work placed qualifications and have recently recived a caution from Trading Standards, for breaking the Tradesmarks act by selling wrongly online, I havent been fined anything just given the caution.

    Does anyone know if this type of caution will show up on an enhanced disclosure and if it does could this be held against me in any future employment?

    I am currently applying for new work as I am relocating anrea, and am worried about declaring it and not gfetting my chosen work.

    Thanks

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    • Emmer says:

      February 29, 2012 at 9:31 am

      Yes all cautions or warnings will show on an enhanced CRB
      I myself recieved a caution in 2006 for hitting back after taking years of abuse from my ex partner as i then threw him out of our house he called the police,i was then cautioned with common assault, at the time i was a emi care nurse i explained what had happenend they were fine,
      Unfortunatly years later after my caution has become “spent”
      I am now being turned down for jobs as i have a caution from years ago.
      Be honest make it known its there and explain when asked it will be down to the company or local authorities if they want to take you on.
      I wish you all the best

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16. Corrine says:

    February 23, 2012 at 2:21 pm

    Please help. I really want to help out with reading and outings at my five year old son’s school but I need to be CRB checked. A year and a half ago I was cautioned for harassment (I sent one to many text messages to a woman who nearly split up my marriage). Would this ruin any chances of me helping out at the school?

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    • David Wacks says:

      February 27, 2012 at 9:42 am

      Hi Corrine, This Caution will come up on both Standard and Enhanced CRB Disclosures. It will be up to the school then to consider whether they want you. If you approach them confidentially beforehand and tell them everything, they may be able to indicate to you how they would deal with this. It is possible in exceptional circumstances to get a Caution removed, but it is difficult.

      Regards

      David Wacks

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      • Corrine says:

        February 28, 2012 at 4:40 pm

        Many thanks, spoke to head teacher and told him the details, all is ok thank goodness! Thanks for the advice.

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17. worto03 says:

    February 20, 2012 at 11:47 am

    Hi – my partner is about to start a business doing paint-a-pot as well as many other crafty things mostly with children.

    Will she need a CRB check – I’d have though the parents would be with the children anyway – it’s not a problem she has no arrests or anything but it seems hard to get one if your self employed?

    Just trying to work out if it’s something else we need to worry about or not!

    Thanks.

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    • David Wacks says:

      February 22, 2012 at 2:32 pm

      Hi, You do not need a CRB if self employed, but please see the notes in the above article on self employed people. To satisfy your customers it would help to have references, and, I advise all self employed people to obtain public liability insurance in case there is an accident or for instance a child had an extreme reaction to any materials used by you.

      Good Luck.

      David Wacks

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18. Matt. says:

    February 18, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Hi
    I got a caution in 2001 for GBH, I wrote a letter in 2008 to the local police to ask for a step down and it was stepped down will it show up on a CRB check in 2012?

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    • David Wacks says:

      February 21, 2012 at 8:45 am

      I am a Solicitor dealing with a lot of CRB enquiries. Even a stepped down Caution will show on an Enhanced Disclosure check. The police have a discretion in “exceptional circumstances” to remove a Caution completely from their records.

      I am available for a free initial call on 0161 862 9103.

      Regards,

      David

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      • Michael says:

        February 29, 2012 at 12:25 am

        Hi Dave,

        When I was 14 (turning 18 in a few weeks) I was reprimanded for ABH (my first and only offence) after a school boy fight. I was walking home and was punched on the shoulder by a former friend. The punch was hard enough that it made me want to kneel on the ground in agony. I retaliated by punching him and a fight ensued. I ended up landing more punches as I blocked most of his.

        I was not arrested/asked to go to court/convicted and was only sent a letter asking me to be interviewed by a police officer. I was fully honest during the interview giving my side of the incident and the police officer commended on how co-operative and truely regretful I was. The police officer mentioned that the reprimand will be spent/deleted when I turn 18 but I’m aware of the change in legislation in late 2009. I heavily regret how I handled the situation and have done an anger management course with my school’s counsellor. I have changed as a person and haven’t had any violent or anger orientated outburst since(I wasn’t even a violent person before the fight).

        I applied for Nursing and have declared the reprimand on UCAS because I want to be fully honest with the Universities and potential employers due to the exemption in regards with the R0A. I’ve emailed various Universities and HRs who deal with recruitment. I have been told that the reprimand should not hamper my chances of being accepted into a nursing course or future employment as long as I’m honest with them and due to being a minor at that time, I was told by a Uni that it would be to my advantage.

        From a legal stand point, is there any thing else I should be aware of? How HRs deal with offences committed by minors? Potential reforms to the declaration of reprimands? I know there are reforms right now concerning it, could you shed any more light into it?

        Thanks in advance.

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19. Victoria says:

    February 18, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Hi,

    I’m aware that the majority of these questions are all asking the same thing but with different circumstances, but unfortunately I am going to do the same thing!

    I received a caution in 2001 for theft. I was 13 at the time, and although they couldn’t prove that it was me (because it wasn’t) they still cautioned me- maybe to teach me a lesson or something, either way they took my fingerprints and mug shots etc. Will this now be classed as a spent conviction? I don’t really understand the terminology. They told me at the time that it would be removed from my record in 5 years or when I turned 18 (which was in 5 years.)

    However, it definitely shows up on an enhanced CRB check, because I had one done in 2008 when I applied for a job working with vulnerable adults with learning difficulties. I was obviously surprised when the check came through the post with ‘THEFT’ written in big letters along the bottom. Luckily the company that I had applied for thought that I was a strong candidate and discounted it because I received the caution as a minor, and I have worked for them since and have progressed to a managerial role.

    I never approached the CRB dudes to dispute what had shown up because I got the job, and being aged 20 I wasn’t really thinking of the future. However, now I’m considering studying to become a mental health nurse and am concerned that I may not even be accepted onto a university degree course because of my CRB. Can anybody shed any light on this situation for me please? I have tried googling it, and have searched the NMC and home office websites, but have not found a definite answer. The ideal situation would be if I could get it removed in some way??

    Any help and advice will be apreciated.

    Thanks, Victoria.

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20. Thomas says:

    February 13, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    Hello,

    I received a conviction for criminal damage over 5 years ago (now spent). Thankfully, my employer kept me on despite knowing all the details and conducting their own investigation. I am happy in my job but would like to know where I stand so I know what I should be telling any prospective employer in the future.

    I am left confused by this article as it states there are two types of disclosure, whereas criminalrecordchecks.co.uk states three. According to that site only a basic check would NOT disclose my spent conviction. However, a standard or enhanced one would. It also states that most employers use the standard check.

    I don’t work with children, am not an accountant and have no links to any kind of work (in my opinion) that would warrant an enhanced check. Please explain to me what would be disclosed if a prospective employer ran a ‘non-enhanced’ check on me.

    Thanks

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    • David Wacks says:

      February 15, 2012 at 9:50 am

      Hello Thomas, On a Basic CRB a spent conviction should not come up but is likely to on an Enhanced CRB check.

      The Law may however change in detail later this year.

      David Wacks

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21. zoe says:

    February 11, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    im going to court as my ex wants access to my son after i stopped him seeing him when my son returned from his care with a injury and my ex lied about it caffcass has done a first report and on it they mention i have a caution against another person that may be relavent thats all they put the judge has seen this i was wondering if they can put this as it was 13yrs ago and it was a caution for assault against a girl of the same age (i was 15 yrs old) and she was bullying me and defended myself we both got cautioned. none of this was in the report nor was the length of time ago it was and i was still classed as a minor also i have not been allowed to explain about this so on looking at the report i feel people may think it was recent and i was at fault can they do this and what can i do to prevent it going against me

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22. Anya says:

    February 7, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    Hi, I am just about to start a new job with children and have to first complete a declaration form for my employers and then obtain an enhanced disclosure.
    My big worry is that about 16 years ago I was charged with breach of the peace and criminal damage, when the case came to court, my lawyer entered a plea bargain which got the charges dropped in return for me paying for the damage.
    Do I need to declare this to my employers? Will this show up on my enhanced disclosure? If I should declare this, how do I word it? Any advice would be much appreciated

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    • David Wacks says:

      February 9, 2012 at 11:09 am

      Hi Anya,

      The original charge should not appear on a Standard CRB but the police do have a discretion to put it on your Enhanced Disclosure. If asked about criminal convictions, you can genuinely say no. But, if they ask a more general question you may need legal advice as to how to answer it.

      I am a Solicitor dealing with this type of work and if you wish to call me that first call is completely free of charge.

      David Wacks
      0161 862 9103

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      • Anya says:

        February 17, 2012 at 10:53 pm

        Thank you for this. I think I need to include this on the non-conviction information section and hope that it doesn’t count against me!

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23. darren says:

    January 30, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    I have a conviction for battery and harassment…I plead guilty and wasn’t found guilty as due to previous circumstances I lost faith in the justice system and based on my solicitors advise wouldn’t go to prison…I received 18 months suspended sentence.I am looking to complete a degree with the hope of becoming a teacher. It would be greatly appreciated if anyone could tell me if there is any point in pursuing this career path? Many thanks in anticipation

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    • David Wacks says:

      February 2, 2012 at 8:59 am

      I am a Solicitor who over the last few years has dealt with a large number of enquiries relating to Enhanced CRB Disclosure. It is within the discretion of the police as to whether to disclose an arrest even if you were never charged let alone convicted. The police should apply a number of Supreme Court guidelines before issuing Enhanced Disclosure so as to give a balance between protecting the public and ruining an individuals future prospects, but, in many cases they do not do so.

      If any reader however wishes to contact me directly on 0161 862 9103 I provide a free initial advice session when I can advise on the prospects and, if they are reasonable, the way forward.

      David Wacks

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      • AnnieLouise says:

        February 2, 2012 at 1:54 pm

        Hi,

        David Wacks can you help me!?

        I was given a PND (Penalty Notice for Disorder) at the age of 17 for accessory in shoptheft.

        I paid the 80pounds. Which meant I would not be asked to go to court and therefore would not recieve a criminal conviction or record.

        NACRO and the police service state- A PND is NOT a criminal conviciton, reprimand, warning or caution but IS recordable on the PNC (police national computer)

        In relation to CRB checks, NACRO have assured me that a PND OR FPN will NOT come up on a standard CRB check but MAY come up on an eCRB if the Chief Police Officer deems it relevant to the post applied for.

        I’d like to know, is a PND classed as a fine? Would others in my situation disclose a PND anyway before a eCRB as it MAY be disclosed by the Chief Policed Officer?

        Very sticky situation, eh?

        Thank You

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        • David Wacks says:

          February 6, 2012 at 2:24 pm

          Hi Annie Louise,

          I agree with NACRO that if you apply for a job requiring Enhanced Disclosure that the police can refer to this. As regards disclosure before a CRB is put in hand, you need to check the EXACT information requested in the questionnaire and then consider whether under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act, you need to disclose this.

          Unfortunately where the police have such a wide discretion it is impossible to advise how they will react, about disclosing this under Enhanced Disclosure but should an adverse entry arise, I can consider your options at that time,

          Regards

          David Wacks

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      • Natalie Gardner says:

        February 8, 2012 at 3:27 pm

        Um.
        Could you help me out please?
        I’m 13 and I am about to be charged with theft. (I stole money not goods)
        What would the likely punishment/sentence be?
        And would it show up on a background check when I apply to go to college and apply for a job?

        Please this would mean so much to me. I’m worring so much over my mistake.

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        • Jasmine Birtles says:

          February 12, 2012 at 6:26 pm

          OK Natalie, I asked a friend who is a family lawyer and this is what she said: “A general comment – if at all possible Natalie should get some legal help – she is probably entitled to legal aid and if she goes to a solicitor they can help advise her about sentencing and represent her in court. It is difficult to say, without knowing more of the circumstances what sort of sentence it might be. For example, how much was stolen and from whom. For a first theft offence for a young person, a custodial sentence is extremely unlikely.

          The 3 websites below contain a lot of useful information about the long-term impact of any conviction.

          If someone under 18 is convicted of a criminal offence it will be deemed spent after a certain amount of time depending on the sentence. There is a table setting out the different time periods on the second web page. However, if a conviction involves a custodial sentence of over 2 ½ years it is never spent. Once the conviction is spent there is no need to declare it to most employers or to a college. As the main article says, however, there are some jobs for which no conviction is ever deemed spent (for example, if you are going to be working with vulnerable young people) and if you are asked about convictions you should disclose them. They will show up on even a standard CRB check. It will be best to be honest about it.

          This does not mean that the fact of having a conviction will lead an employer to turn you down. They should consider whether it is relevant to the issue of risk. It would seem to me unlikely that the conviction of a 13 year old for a dishonesty offence – assuming that there are no further criminal convictions by the time of applying for a job) – would prevent someone from being employed to look after young people for example, especially if there are good references and the person is otherwise the right person for a job.

          I suspect it will be more of a problem in the immediate future if Natalie wants to apply for a part-time job, because the employer would be likely to think she might be a risk in the workplace because she might not act honestly or might be tempted to steal money. It will take time to rebuild the trust the adults around her can have in her. Hopefully any conviction would be spent fairly quickly and then it would not need to be declared.

          http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Startinganewjob/DG_195809

          http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/CrimeJusticeAndTheLaw/Sentencingprisonandprobation/Sentencingandcriminalrecords/DG_199794

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_Records_Bureau

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24. WAQAR says:

    January 29, 2012 at 9:41 pm

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25. pete says:

    January 25, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    so a totally spent caution for indecent assault, as a youth 16 yrs old, would due to its sexual nature make me fail any enhanced crb check and stop me getting the job? because ive never counted it, i only accepted the caution to put an end to the matter and get out of there as the officer at the time suggested, if i knew it would come back at me i would have fought it all the way because i was innocent… could i contest the caution now?? i doubt it

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    • jay says:

      January 29, 2012 at 9:00 pm

      you are pretty much screwed unless you get the system changed i have the same problem but mine was an acusation which went to court and i was cleared but it still comes up on a enhanced crb check. You could write to the cheif of police of your local force and see if he will stop disclosing it or talk to your MP and see if they will change your system

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26. bobby says:

    January 24, 2012 at 4:34 am

    Not wanting to ask the same tired question BUT
    i am starting a course very soon to teach sport to children, 4 -18. i am having an enhanced crb
    i guess
    caution for GBH at 16 (im now 40) will show

    these others im unsure about
    at 24 the police were called after a domestic.my girlfriend attacked me and i pushed her. she was taken to hospital with out injury and let out one hour later – will this show
    two years ago, i was given an 80GBP spot fine for public order. (i shot my sons cap gun at a friend and a passer by reported me?!) – will this show
    the first i can blame on youth!
    second sounds awful but we are now married. hopefully can explain away
    last one, if it is recorded as the pc said “i aimed a replica firearm” it sounds terrible. if as fine public disorder i hope i can explain

    pls help
    im petrified of the outcome after 1yr of hard work and hundreds of pounds spent, to fall at the last hurdle will be devistating

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27. Khan says:

    January 23, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    I had penalty notice in march 2011 for shoplifting. I paid that with in 3-weeks. I wanted to work as teaching assistant in school. So this caution will destroy my career like it will appear on my school job enhanced CRB.
    Reply me please, thanks.

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28. fred says:

    January 19, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    Hello,

    I am starting a volunteering position as a teacher assistant in a secondary school.
    For the CBR check, I need to give all my addresses of the last 5 years, in total 6. As a foreigner, my first address was abroad, the second is in the UK and should be fine, but I just stayed a few months at each of the 3 next addresses where I have never been registered with consul taxes. My current address is fine.
    I ask this question because I wanted to make a payment by installment and it has been refused because the credit company could not trace me at all those addresses for the last 5 years.
    Could you tell me whether it could be a problem?

    Many thanks

    Reply
29. Danny says:

    January 12, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    Hey, I have started a course with a placement, and found out today that I would need a CRB check, it is working in an admin department. I received a reprimand when I was 14 for a sexual offence involving someone of 13, which I admitted to because I was told nobody would believe me if i denied it. Will this be a problem for me considering i am now 21 and so took place like 7 years ago?

    Reply
30. Kate says:

    January 10, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    Please help!!

    Really worried, I want to become a social worker but have a caution on my record from 5 years ago for Battery (self defence) will this affect my chances of working in this line of work as I want to work in CPS (child protection service).

    Any help would be appreciated

    Kate

    Reply
31. Henry says:

    January 5, 2012 at 12:36 am

    Hi, I have been searching for a job now for 6 months after graduating from university with a sport science degree. I really want to go into coaching children but I cant bring myself to apply for any of the jobs because im afraid. I was arrested and given a official police warning a year ago for possession of a class A drug. It haunts me everyday, will it appear on both the standard and enhanced CRB checks? And would this complicate my chances of getting a job? Please help!

    Reply
    • Ian says:

      January 5, 2012 at 2:56 pm

      Your caution will appear on both a standard or an enhanced CRB check, but not a basic CRB check. Unfortunately for you, you will need an enhanced CRB check before working with children. The caution is only removed from your record at the age of 100.

      Sorry it is not the news you want to hear.

      Reply
    • Matt says:

      January 11, 2012 at 6:23 pm

      It will appear, but that won’t neccessarily stop you. Be upfront from the outset, and explain what is on there, and the circumstances around your conviction. I’ve known employers work with people with much worse looking CRBs then yours, the most important thing is for them to know that you’re not a risk, so explain that.

      Don’t not apply for a job because of your convictions, but don’t always wait for them to ask for your CRB and read about it themselves – explain it in person as you’re more likely to get the job.

      Reply
32. John says:

    December 30, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    I would like to go back into a line of work that involves working with children but 6 years ago i was issued a 2 year cautioned by the police because my Ex Girlfriend had me arrested for touching her chest. Im sure this sounds rediculous to some but im worried it will appear on a CRB check. Could you please clarify??

    Reply
33. Megan says:

    December 15, 2011 at 4:00 pm

    I was caught stealing when I was 13, my conviction was spent when I turned 18 – I am currently filling out university applications and wonder whether or not it is necessary for me to say that I have had a conviction or now that is it spent does it nolonger apply to me?
    Thanks

    Reply
    • Jayne says:

      December 28, 2011 at 12:00 am

      Someone is making a LOT of money from CRB checks and it’s not me and this needs to be investigated.

      Reply
34. Elizabeth says:

    December 11, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Just a query Im 25 currently on a access course to higher education. Im looking to go to university in september 2012. I currently have no experience under my belt so will need to apply for an enhanced CRB asap. Within the last 5 years I have lived at least 4-5 addresses but not sure of all the dates exactly. Im just a litle worried if the dates are not correct will I fail the CRB?

    Reply
35. Margarita says:

    December 10, 2011 at 9:43 am

    If I lived for 4 weeks as a live- in – carer in a place, do I need to write this address on CRB APPLICATION FORM? I lived with my partner meanwhile but I was not mentioned on his address yet? Also I lived as a live- in – carer for 2 weeks in the other place, but still had all my belongings in my partner’ place. Or I should write my partners address on CRB?

    Reply
36. Simon says:

    December 8, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Hi, I was given a reprimand following a playground fight when I was 13 (6 years ago), but since have not committed any crime. I have recently applied to be a licensed football coach with The FA and I am very worried that this may come back to haunt me. I have declared I received a reprimand on the Enhanced CRB form. Does anyone know if the reprimand stops me from working with children?

    Reply
37. LEILA says:

    December 3, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    Hi what about for scotland…does the same laws apply.I got a police warning two years ago in edinburgh for shoplifting and the letter said ”my warning would be held on record for two years”….so does that mean im free after two years and do not need to declare except maybe when doing an enhanced crb check…what about uk residency application?
    And what will come up on the enhanced crb then………’No live trace’ or the crime stated in detail

    Reply
38. Maria says:

    December 1, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Hi, have done more than five crbs in the past.
    Looking back at my previous crb certificates in the (place of birth).. I put down the hospital city where I was born.
    However, on my passport I have got as my place of birth the town and city where I lived most of my life.

    So in my last crb, I put down the hospital city where I was actually born, and the town and other city which is stated on my passport.

    Do you think there will be a problem with this ?

    Thanks

    Reply
39. Rera Pops says:

    November 30, 2011 at 11:20 am

    In November 2001 (so 10 years ago this month) – when I was 15 – I was arrested for a Section 5 (Public Order) offense for swearing at a police officer – I wont go into details – and was taken to the station. I was released shortly after when my mother came to pick me up. I’m unsure if I was cautioned but was certainly not charged with anything. Regardless of this, the arrest comes up on my Enhanced CRB checks time after time. Does anyone know if this will expire after a time or am I stuck with it for life? To date it hasn’t had a detrimental effect on my ability to gain employment but I find it rather embarassing.

    Reply
    • ollyancap says:

      February 23, 2012 at 2:23 am

      i’d be proud. cops are legalised criminals.

      Reply
40. Nadeem Bari says:

    November 21, 2011 at 4:22 pm

    Hey,

    I have been selected for a job and I am a foreigner student here. I have been living here for last one and half years. Still I need to get my certificate of code of conduct from my home country?

    Reply
41. Sophie says:

    November 17, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Hello… At the age of 16 I was involved in a fight at school which resulted with me receiving a caution. I am now 27 and a newly qualified teacher who is stuck with this caution on my enhanced CRB even though it was over 10 years ago. I want to know if when there is anyway to get it removed. I know that the law was changed in 2009 so that cautions will remain until the 100th birthday but wanted to know if this will be appealed or if it will stand. I find it really unfair as even the police at the time stated that it was just a silly school girl fight that should have never went so far. Please help!

    Reply
42. NATHAN says:

    November 15, 2011 at 3:56 pm

    HI PLEASE HELP!!!
    in 2008 i think i was done for criminal damage. and was sent to court and fined for the damage. i only scratched someones car. i want to progress in the company i work for which require an enhanced CRB check. will this stay on my record? if so for how long. thank you

    Reply
43. Stephen says:

    November 7, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Hi, I have just be offered a Job working for the Scottish Prison service subject to Disclosure Scotland Checks. I actually had a check done 2 months ago for a Taxi firm taking school children to and from school, Which passed fine although there was a vehicle excise fine (court case) 21 years ago showing. ( i had stupidly displayed tax from another car for one day to someone a favour ) So at the time there was fraud mentioned. In the prison employment policy fraud is instant no-go at the application stage. I had totaly forgot about this as the discosure only mentions vehicle excise £75 fine. Will this be ok or is my job offer with this gone?

    Reply
44. talisha says:

    November 2, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    I’ve been caught steeling last year (2010) on sep 23
    Stole little stuff. I’m now 13 and 5 months wondering how long my crimal record would stay there ,does it stay there forever or what ?

    Reply
45. Ben says:

    November 2, 2011 at 6:51 am

    Hi,

    In 2008 i got convicted of common assault and got community service for it.Will this show up on a CRB in another 3 years time if i wanted to do sports coaching?

    Liam

    Reply
    • Lee says:

      December 19, 2011 at 11:12 pm

      Hi Ben

      In 3 years time, unfortunately it will still be on your CRB. If it is en-hanced CRB it will always be there.

      All my past convictions are for violence. And i have a good few. I don’t think you should have any problems, just be honest.

      Reply
46. John Murphy says:

    November 1, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    Can anyone help? I feel i have just been discrimated against. I have 2 convictions against me. One- for customs evasion 28 years ago to which i served a 6 month sentence and the other for a book theft 26 years ago for which i got a 100 pound fine. I have never commited an offence since and am a reformed character. For the last 10 years i have worked in supported employment as a coach/mediator working with disadvantaged and vuneral adults. All posts required an enhanced CRB check and in the case of employment in Ireland, a Garda clearance.
    Just now, i am living back in Ireland and have just completed a 2nd interview for a post working with people with Aspergers Syndrome. Everything went well and i submitted excellent references. I also submitted my previous enhanced disclosure illustrating the above convictions. As this had not been held against me in any of my previous jobs (including one in Ireland) i was confident that common sense would prevail as my track record in this work is very good. An hour after i left the 2nd interview i got a call from the employer who informs me that ‘they are not going ahead with my application due solely to my convictions’ and to Quote the employer “This changes everything” !. He says they have never employed anyone with a conviction before and turned me down on this basis. I was shocked, hurt and angry at this dickensian attitude. I have never encountered it before. At this point, i feel the vicitm of discrimination and am wondering if anyone can help advise me as to where i stand legally. I have requested this in writing in a tactful way. This response, when so close to being offered the job, has floored me and put me back years.

    Reply
47. Steve says:

    October 31, 2011 at 9:23 am

    Hi there, I received a custodial sentence of 1 year (but only spent six months) back in 1994 (some sixteen years ago)
    It was for deception. (that I was duped into pleading guilty for)
    Any way, I have had no offences prior or after and wondered if it would show on a CRB check?

    I am worried about applying for any help job because of my past.

    Any help would be gratefully received.

    Many thanks,
    Steve.

    Reply
48. JUst says:

    October 17, 2011 at 2:12 am

    Hi, I had received a Fixed Penalty Notice £80 for theft in 2009. Will this show up on CRB?? It was not a conviction or caution bit I am deeply worried.

    Reply
49. Caroline says:

    October 13, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    Hiya, as part of my job i have to carry out CRB checks on line for staff what qualifications do I have to have and what does my job description have to say?

    Reply
    • Rera Pops says:

      November 30, 2011 at 11:16 am

      Caroline
      You cannot check CRBs online. They can be done by application form only. To be ‘in charge’ of this on behalf of your organisation, you need to fill in an application to become a countersignatory and wait for authorisation to be granted. Thuis then gives you permission to sign off people’s CRB applications and you will receive a copy of their disclosure when the checks are completed. You do not need any qualifications and as for the job description question…well I’m not sure what you mean.
      I hope that helps.

      Reply
50. max says:

    October 13, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    If you had a warrant out for your arrest wud you fail a crb check?? or if you had a driving offence such as taking a vehicle without consent wud that affect your crb to work in a school??

    Reply
51. Elle says:

    October 11, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Hi I am sick with worry about this so any help is appriciated! I spent seven years in a violent relationship and after I left have spent three years rebuilding my life. I was not allowed a job in that time. Recently I applied to do training as a peer supporter worker for breastfeeding mothers and they need an enhanced check. Three years ago I received a caution as my ex tried to strangle me and I scratched his neck pushing him away. I would never usually lose my temper with anyone but.. The police arrived as a passer by to the car saw a scuffle and I jumped out the car. I received extensive injury but the police were arrogant and proceeded to arrest me also to the shock of witnesses. I accepted the caution to get away and never saw him again, after being bullied into it by the officer. I deeply regret that but aside will my caution for battery stop me doing this?

    Reply
    • Jasmine Birtles says:

      October 12, 2011 at 7:40 pm

      Hi Elle, I really don’t think this will be a problem. I will check with an HR professional but I’m sure it will be fine.

      Reply
    • Helen says:

      December 16, 2011 at 7:55 pm

      Dear Elle,

      How did you get on? I am applying to do the same thing and have a very old caution for theft. I am worried that I will be excluded from taking part and also how ‘confidentially’ this information will be treated by the people who see it.

      Helen

      Reply
52. diane says:

    October 11, 2011 at 11:54 am

    if any one could help me i would appreciate it. in 2007 i was found guilty of 3 counts of failing to declare a change in circumstances which led to me being overpaid in housing benefit, council tax and social security, i was fined and did 70 hours community service, i would like to work in a care home for the elderly, will this show up on a crb check? if any1 knows please help, i dont want to pay out 4 one if it does as money is very tight, thanking u in advace

    Reply
    • Tom says:

      October 11, 2011 at 12:04 pm

      It depends on the home you want to work in. Different ones have different policies. I have worked in a care home with a drink driving conviction, which happened in 2008. I’m sure it’d be okay, find out first.

      Reply
53. carol says:

    October 7, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    Hi im a fostercarer and i also work with adults with learning difficulties myself and my partner had a domestic arguement the police came out and because i stated that i pulled my partners arm trying to get him to leave the police stated that was assault they held me in custoday and taken to court on the monday morning terrible experience i was liberated and did not appear in the court room i was advised that no further action would be taken.would this appear on a enhanced disclousre?

    Reply
54. susan says:

    July 22, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Hello

    I am the aunt of 2 children who are in foster care due to the death of their mother. The foster mother has asked me to look after the children for one evening a week while she works. I have a conviction for shoplifting 30 yrs ago. Will I be required to reveal this conviction? I have no further problems or cautions for anything. The children are 10 and 12 yrs old. Many thanks.

    Reply
55. Jo says:

    July 20, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Hi,
    I have to pay administrative penalty for not declaring change in my circumstances (my income went down and I thought that it is to my own disadvantage), but it appeared that I was still overpaid. They explained that in that time one of my children became 11 years old and it somehow influenced the amount of they disregard in calculating a housing benefit. Apart from the fact that it is absolutely unfair (what does a child’s age has to do with a decreased income?), I am very worried now because I am a second year nursing student. Will this administrative penalty show up in an enhanced CRB check? I am just lost for words and do not know whether to read for my exams next week or just quit my studies all together.
    Additionally, the council has 3 times lost different documents that I provided and I was underpaid last quite a huge some (they paid it to me later additionally). So, it looks like they can make mistakes and lose documents, but I can’t. Not even to my disadvantage.
    Shall I agree to pay that administrative penalty or go to court and try to prove my truth? Pleas, help me someone with the answer. Thank you.

    Reply
56. Hayley says:

    July 20, 2011 at 7:12 am

    I got caught shoplifting the other day and am 17 years old. I was reprimanded. I have been given conflicting advice from the police – will this appear in crb checks etc after the age of 18?

    Reply
    • cayti says:

      July 28, 2011 at 4:10 pm

      Hayley, a caution lasts for 5 years or until the person is 18, whichever is longer ie if you were 17 it will last until you are 22 but if you were 10 it would last until you were 18. I am an ex Police Sergeant. So, it will show up on a CRB check.

      Reply
      • Franky says:

        November 9, 2011 at 1:48 pm

        Hi Cayti

        I hope you are well, in 2008 my ex boyfriend and I had an argument that started as a normal domestic one, however he got out of control, approached me, grabbed me from behind and led me to the door to throw me out with hardly any clothes on, I needed to defend myself (0 degrees C outside temp) I panicked and bit his ear so that he would react and released me. With so much adrenaline rushing thru my system I was unable to measure the force of the bite, I made him bleed. 3 days later he went to the doctors, 2 months later he decided to report the incident to the police because I would not sign my 50% ownership of the house over to him so I was arrested for 3 hours approx in order to tell the police my side of the story. Was immediately released on bail. 4 months later I was charged with GBH. That happened over two years ago and I am now applying to work in a school as a receptionist and an enhanced CRB disclosure is necessary, will that affect me ?

        Reply
57. Anthony says:

    July 14, 2011 at 2:35 pm

    I was arrested for drink-driving in 2003 at the age of 26. I’m now 35 and about to go through the CRB check. Would my driving conviction affect my chances to do any volunteering work or be accepted on the teacher training course?

    Thank you.

    Reply
58. lorrain says:

    July 13, 2011 at 5:36 am

    I work in a school and have been caught stealing will I loose my job ?

    Reply
    • Jasmine Birtles says:

      July 13, 2011 at 1:17 pm

      Hard to say. Were you stealing in the school? If so then I expect that you would be fired. If you were caught stealing elsewhere then it depends on the school’s policy (and if they get to hear about it).

      Reply
59. amie says:

    July 12, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Hi, 4 years ago I had an abusive boyfriend. On one occassion he hit me and I snapped and hit him back. I called the police, and told them he had hit me first so I hit him back, they took both of our details but we didn’t get a warning or anything. Now I need to apply for an enhanced CRB, will this show on it?

    Thanks

    Reply
    • Tom says:

      July 24, 2011 at 3:22 pm

      In short no it shouldn’t appear. There should be no information on your dealings with the police contained on the certificate unless you were explicitly given a warning or some sort of conviction. Unless the police took further action then it is just an incident that doesn’t have a permanent record.

      Reply
      • Joe q says:

        October 31, 2011 at 11:26 am

        Not strictly true.. In some cases, any contact of any sort is recorded and displayed on the crb. I know of foster carers who have been visited by the police due to the misdemeanours of the young people in their care, and the visit appears on the carers crb! If further information is held on the police computer about trials, questioning, cases where nfa occurred, it can still appear on crb checks if deemed by the police to be important. Whick sucks, quite frankly.

        Reply
60. alison says:

    July 8, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    i wish to apply for a job at a care home as a domestic assistant i have a 10 year conviction of obtaining property by deception will this show up

    Reply
    • Stuart says:

      July 14, 2011 at 4:29 am

      If it is enhanced then yes. Not sure about standard but my hunch almost certainly here as well.

      Reply
61. Nat85 says:

    July 6, 2011 at 4:03 pm

    When I was in my late teens I was drunk and had harmed myself and was subsequently taken to hospital via ambulance. I behaved in a disorderly, but non-violent manner no police were involved but it was logged by the NHS as it was brought up on a later trip to hospital. I am now twenty six, I have no convictions or cautions but am worried that this will come up in a enhanced CRB check. Does anybody know If this could be a problem?

    Reply
62. James Dickerson says:

    July 3, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    I work for a voluntary organisation at an NHS Hospital Trust where I assist in the organisations shop. Although working within healthcare the shop workers do no have direct contact with persons under the age of 18 years or vunerable persons i.e. patients. Is it considered necessary for persons working in this environment to be in possession of a CRB certificate?
    Also requests are recieved by young persons between the ages of 14 and 18 years to assist in the shop when participating in the Duke of Edinborgh Award. Is it necessary for these people to have CRB Certficates bearing in mind that the regulations appear to apply to persons over the age of 18 years.
    Your comments on the above would be welcomed.
    Thankyou in anticipation

    Reply
    • Jasmine Birtles says:

      July 4, 2011 at 3:47 pm

      Hi, I’ve asked an HR friend and she says “it’s to do with prolonged one to one contact – and as it’s helping out in a shop with someone, I doubt she’d be alone with them anyway. So I really wouldn’t worry.”

      Reply
      • James Dickerson says:

        July 5, 2011 at 6:45 pm

        Thankyou – your reply is of great help.

        Reply
63. Junior konchus says:

    June 29, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Can anyone give me any related advice – in 1978/9 when I was 11/12. I was caught stealing from a shop. I was given a police reprimand with my mother present. I’m at present required to go through a enhanced CRB for my current job in health care. Will this reprimand still be access by a enhanced CRB. Any info Lenghty or short would be greatly appreciated.

    Reply
64. Jay says:

    June 22, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    I am applying for a security license but 21 years ago I was in the army and was court marshalled for sterling a video! Will that go against me?

    Reply
    • mike says:

      June 23, 2011 at 2:04 pm

      Jay, you won’t have anything to worry about. Courts Martial will not show up. They are solely a military affair. Only if you were caught by the civil police, charged and were convicted by either a Magistrate or Crown Court jury will it show.

      Reply
      • Steve says:

        June 30, 2011 at 8:35 pm

        Mike, how do you know that for sure? I was ‘dismissed with disgrace’ by court martial, over 20 years ago – its still on my crb check …..

        Reply
65. Mike says:

    June 21, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Phew, just had a CRB Standard check for a job. I am 55 and have 2 convictions for theft (both times with fines) from 1979 and a Caution for theft in 1997 and none of it was shown. We have only just started having CRB checks having changed our status as a company. I can’t believe it, thought I would be found out and sacked after going straight for all this time.

    Reply
66. Lee Taylor says:

    June 17, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    Hi,
    I was arrested in November last year because my ex wife rang the police and said i had physically assulted my two children when i had them over night, i was arrested and questioned and investigated and it all came back as no futher action will this show on my crb it was my ex wife getting back at me thanks lee

    Reply
    • Tom says:

      July 24, 2011 at 3:25 pm

      No, if no further action was taken and no warning/ conviction issued then it should not be noted by a crb.

      Reply
      • oliver a says:

        January 10, 2012 at 1:55 pm

        all arrests will appear on enhanced CRB sorry

        Reply
67. joan says:

    June 16, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Hi

    my partner has had a couple of crb checks but has forgot to mention she was married and divorced 23 years ago, she was only married for 6 weeks. on the last crb check she put this down. it is with the same employer but a different job will this cause a problem or are all crb checks seperate. she has no convictions or cautions.

    Reply
68. ann pearson says:

    June 16, 2011 at 3:13 am

    three years ago istole a solar light from someones front garden i had been drinking. i was cautioned, will this show on crb .so worried will lose my job waitressing in private hospital

    Reply
69. claudette says:

    June 13, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    How many yrs in the state of Pa. can an employer go back and check then not give you the job. It is 14 yrs for me, retail thefts, felony of 3rd degree. I can’t get a job.

    Reply
70. Liz says:

    June 13, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    Hello, Can anyone tell me if being a Bankrupt shows up on a CRB check and if this changes after the statuatory 6 years? Many thanks

    Reply
    • Mike says:

      June 21, 2011 at 8:14 pm

      Being a bankrupt will not show up. Only a criminal conviction will.

      Reply
71. Gazz says:

    June 9, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    I don’t know what others are worried about. I have a criminal record and may never get a job again. Every time I apply it will show upon my CRB check. It will never be removed and I used to work with vulnerable adults before that and my CRB checks were fine. I guess I deserve it for having bi-polar disorder. It seems that even if you’re doolally as tap it doesn’t matter you still get convicted.

    Reply
72. jane says:

    June 8, 2011 at 10:43 am

    i am a teacher
    i have never been in trouble before
    but last year i met a guy moved in with him
    only to realise he was emotionally violent and then he became physically violent
    i acted in self defence to his attack
    he called the police because as he said he knew it would get me into trouble with the authorities
    now i want to teach in uk or globally
    but i know i have to declare the caution ( no further action)
    will this affect my chances of work?
    please advise
    really upset

    Reply
    • Senor_Chang says:

      June 14, 2011 at 11:55 pm

      You acted in self-defence and this should be shown in the police report. You did not act badly towards a child. You will have no problems. Don’t worry.

      Reply
73. angela L Taylor Solicitor says:

    June 6, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    The current system makes the Rehabilitation of offenders Act worthless, it encourages discrinination for millions of innocent people and is against Article 8 of the human Rights Act (privacy)
    We now live in a police state where the state actively discorages people from volunteering, employment, education or breaking the cycle of crime because they approved ammendments in September 2009 to list all information held on a person to any employer who requests it meaning there is now no such thing as ‘spent convictions’ the ROO Act is now pointless.

    Big Brother has officially taken over!

    Reply
    • Mike says:

      June 21, 2011 at 8:20 pm

      Hi Angela,

      I have put a post on here dated 21/6/11. Why haven’t either of my 2 convictons for theft (fined in 1979) or my Caution for theft from 97 shown up on my Standard Disclosure? I was very worried but am also confused by what you have written. It all seems to be so abitrary.

      Reply
74. Simon says:

    June 6, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    I’m 57 & need a CRB check to be able to help at my son’s school to go on outings & help with reading in class. I was found guilty of possession of a small amount of canabis when I was 25, will this stop me getting a positive CRB?

    Thanks

    Reply
    • Senor_Chang says:

      June 14, 2011 at 11:57 pm

      Unless your incident involved children this will not be a problem.

      Reply
      • nabs says:

        January 31, 2012 at 1:22 pm

        hi i was arrested when i was between 13/15 i cant remember exactly it was for shoplifting i have been working with children and young people since i was 18 i,m now 32 i wanted to know what comes up because prior to 2008 i must of had loads but nothing come up i think but since 2008 the new law says everthing will come uo on my crb is that true

        Reply
75. Ruth says:

    May 27, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    i am currently at university doing a degree in health and social care. i have just recieved my CRB back and im disgusted with it, i have never been to court or convicted of anything. i was last arrested in 2008 for theft by finding. i found a mobile phone in a night club and never handed it in. on my CRB it says theft from a person which is not correct not once i have taken anything from an individual, i took this mobile phone from the floor not from a person!! had i have seen someone drop the item then i would of give it them. im really mad and considering seeking legal advice as i feel this portrays an awful and inaccurate image of myself. has any one got any tips for me as what i do next? and do i have a case?

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76. Jo Greig says:

    May 26, 2011 at 11:39 am

    I have applied for care assistant for people with special needs. I had a warning a few years back for drunk and disorderly when I was having a few problems. Will this show up on ehanced disclosure and go against me?

    Reply
    • Jasmine Birtles says:

      May 31, 2011 at 10:53 am

      Apparently it depends on the level of the warning! It probably won’t be a problem. It’s only going to be difficult if the warning was for something really serious.

      Reply
77. Muzzy says:

    May 22, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    Hi I have graduated and managed to get a graduate position in IT within the financial industry, after a month in industry my employer did a CRB check and it came back positive.
    I was not aware of the CRB as I thought the fine that I paid was all that happened, after all the CRB is of parking my car using my mums disabled badge. As my mum was not with me when I parked the car I was sent to court and was told to pay a fine.
    I did raise the fact that my mum was ten minutes away from where I parked the car. But no one listened, as a result I have now got a CRB and need to get it removed to continue with my employer. The firm has said to get rid of the CRB and they will take me back. What can I do to clear this stupid CRB?

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    • Jasmine Birtles says:

      May 23, 2011 at 1:49 pm

      Hello Muzzy. I have asked our CRB specialist and she says: “I think an individual can challenge the content of the CRB (how to details on their website). So if the info is wrong, he should be able to get the reference removed. As far as I’m aware, if he was guilty (as far as the law is concerned), he cannot get it removed from his CRB record. His best recourse may be to challenge if the offence is relevent to the job – it wouldn’t be for most posts here – or, indeed, if the employer had the right to check this post anyway, which he could check here..
      http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/agencies-public-bodies/CRB/about-the-crb/eligible-positions-guide?view=Binary“

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78. Simon says:

    May 16, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    You mention in your article that the CRB can last for up to 3 years however this is incorrect.

    The CRB states on their home office website that ‘Each CRB check will show the date on which it was printed. However CRB checks do not carry a pre-determined period of validity because a conviction or other matter could be recorded against the subject of the CRB check at any time after it is issued.’

    Some organisations and councils have decided that after 3 years they will reapply for new checks but it is not a legal requirement with either the home office or the Criminal Records Bureau.

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79. Adeola Ifemade says:

    May 12, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    I have applied to two different agencies now for Care work and MLA work, they have not fixed me up with any work yet. I need a job seriously so have not relented on my job search, I am about to apply to another agency for training and they have asked me to pay for another CRB check. This will be my 3 CRB is 4 months, (even the officers who check criminal records should be tired of my name -all my CRBs come out well). Is there anything I can do about this till I get a suitable job?

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    • Senor_Chang says:

      June 14, 2011 at 11:59 pm

      It’s unfortunate but you will have to be patient. Nothing you can do. The past applications will make future ones process quicker. Just be sure to enter all the correct names and addresses as in previous applications or it causes delays.

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80. Andy says:

    May 4, 2011 at 10:11 am

    How long do reprimands remain on the system?

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81. Hi says:

    April 15, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    Hi,

    When my son was aged 10 he was questioned about a sexually incident he was not charged now he is 19 and needs a CRB check would this show up on his check, and stop hinm refering football matches

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    • mika says:

      April 26, 2011 at 5:12 am

      Either a caution or conviction show on a CRB check, the age of your son at the time and the fact he was just questioned would lead me to believe he will have no issue.

      Reply
82. Jason Naylor says:

    April 12, 2011 at 2:52 pm

    Good afternoon,
    I require a little assistance please, I received a caution at the age of 15 in 2004 for criminal damage (arson) after foolishly setting fire to a bin through carelessness. I am now 22 and have applied for an apprenticeship at a nuclear power station. So do I need to declare this spent conviction? And will it prevent me getting the job?

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    • mika says:

      April 26, 2011 at 5:15 am

      After 6 years a caution is removed unless its an enhanced crb chack and due to the fact you were 15 at the time, people understand when you are a teenager you do dumb things, be they accidental or premeditated, FUlly Disclose it to be seen to be honest but it shouldnt go against you.

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83. Lewisstacey says:

    April 5, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Hi, my daughter was beaten up in university by her ex partner and he is due to attend court, he has since stated she pulled his hair in a night club and has made a complaint to the police, they have advised she will probably receive a minor caution, she has not been interviewed yet, however she is studying a teaching course and attends a school as part of the course. How will this caution affect her, will she be kicked out of UNi, is there anyway she can get of the caution, he didn’t receive any injuries and no complaint was made until after the incident with him
    Beating her up

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84. jade says:

    March 16, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    I am currently studying for a degree in social policy and hope to teach within the prison sector.I am worried however as i was arrested in connection to my ex partner for some serious offences i.e kidnap.I was never charge with it as it was clear I had no involvement.Will employers be able to hold this against me when applying for jobs and should i explain the circumstances before hand?

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85. don1 says:

    February 11, 2011 at 2:43 am

    I want to teach. I’ve got my Ba and plenty of experience in that field But everywhere I go there is a crb check . Also my convictions are all spent years and years ago. This crb initially started as a prevention for child abuse and guess what. I really think this Nazi state had something else in mind- long term when they started this assult on a large portion of the population.

    When I say large ‘portion of the population’ I mean the “working Class.” Even at university Benjamin and Jemima did not want to compete with me as a working class hero- from the deprived and depraved inner London council estate. This is all I can see. middle and upper class people DO NOT have to suffer from the same amount of ignorance that I had to to get to where I am today. Therefore the crb check is a classist act.

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    • mick says:

      March 7, 2011 at 1:58 pm

      I totally agree with you. The CRB check is classist and also rascist against the Indidinous population. I just read about an immigrant mass murder who was working in a nursing home, he must have had a check but obviously they haven’t got records for immigrants.
      I just got my check back and it has an offence on from 1973 when I was a child.
      They have destroyed my life and hopes for the future.

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86. www.crbcheckers.org.uk says:

    February 8, 2011 at 12:23 am

    This has been a usefull resource for our customers.

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87. mick says:

    January 28, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    I would like a career change which would involve working with vulnerable adults.
    I have a few minor convictions from over 30 years ago each resulting in a small fine. I haven’t had anything since and consider
    myself as a decent citizen.
    Will I be allowed to work with vulnerable adults or do you think I should give up on the idea?
    Thanks.

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88. Alicia Boyce says:

    January 28, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    Hi, I’m currently gaining a volunteering position and I need to do an enhanced disclosure CRB check. When I was 14 (not proud of this) I hung out with some kids and we drunk alcohol etc. Some neighbours called the police and to be honest I’m not sure what it was they gave me, all I know is that the reason was “anti-social behaviour”, they gave me this card and left. Now I’m 20, but 1) what was it? And 2) do I have to say yes on the convictions, reprimands and cautions section of the form?
    Thanks.

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89. Nick says:

    January 28, 2011 at 12:10 am

    for how long does an allegation appear on the other relevant information of my CRB? what if i have moved to another city for the last five years?

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    • anon says:

      March 29, 2011 at 4:01 pm

      Until your 100 unfortunatly

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90. jay says:

    January 27, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    can empoyers get hold of any statements or more detailed information from the police apart from what come up on my crb check?

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91. Kate says:

    January 7, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    hello, i am at university now and i am hoping eventually to get a career in social work, prison work, teaching, working with vunerable adults/children etc, all these things you need a CRB check for. i already hold a CRB check as i volunteer at a youth group for disabled children. however i have been wondering if when i come to apply for jobs if my any convictions of my partner will show up?
    if they will if we live together or only if were married etc.
    or if certain convictions would show up e.g. sex offences and not others e.g. robbery, things like this
    is anyone able to help me out as i have looked everywhere for this information and cannot find anything anywhere!
    thanks, kate x

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    • jay says:

      January 27, 2011 at 4:51 pm

      no only ur convictions will come up as it is you they are employing not ur partner.

      Reply
      • Me says:

        May 7, 2011 at 6:21 pm

        Actually, it depends. If your partner has a past conviction for, say, theft, then no, it won’t show up. However, if your boyfriend is some Mr Big crimelord, or has a relevant offense, then you will probably be known to the police as a “known associate”. This will appear on the final section of an Enhanced Disclosure, under the section where the police can declare other information they think is relevant. If you want o work with kids, but are living with a paedophile, that’s relevant information.

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92. PB says:

    January 3, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    I run an area at music festivals and have been contacted by some individuals who want to do a kids workshop session. Two of them already have CRB checks, but i was wondering how i’d go about getting checks for others. They are not being payed for this, but will be receiving a budget for materials/bits and pieces.

    I would also like to get a check done for myself… When I was 17 I got caught taking a look inside a phone cab box and as i had removed some dessicant silicone gell bags was cautioned for the theft of “variuous dessicant silicone gell bags”. This was over 10 years ago. A couple of years ago I had to sign an admittance of possession of cannabis form for the police for a very small lump of cannibis but received no caution or conviction. Both these acts are not something i am proud of but I fear they are going to haunt me for life…

    Will these show up on either level of the CRB checks?

    What comes back from the CRB check?> Does it say pass or fail, or does it include information and then the company has to make the decision on whether that person is safe to be round kids?

    Thanks
    PB

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93. Phoebe says:

    January 2, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    Hi. I have applied for a job in the prison service (office/admin work) and been offered the job pending ECRB check. Last year I broke up with my partner and during the breakup I phoned his parents house where he was staying, 3 or 4 times in an hour because he wouldnt pick up the phone. His mother phoned the police who then came to my house because she said I was harrassing her. I didn’t have to go to the station and I didn’t sign anything, they just asked me not to phone her house again. Is this a caution? And more importantly will it show up on my CRB check? I didn’t even think of it when I was filling in the form and I think I should have disclosed it. I’m now worried that I’m going to lose out on this great job because of this silly thing that I should have remembered. Any advice appreciated.

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94. Sharon says:

    December 26, 2010 at 9:07 am

    I have just been appointed in a position at my local council. The role is subject to an enhanced CRB check which I am just filling out the form for. My question is that in 2004 I got a ticket for not wearing my seatbelt, I paid the fine and thought no more of it. However when I moveed here 4 months ago and updated my driving license etc, I received a letter stating that the fine was still outstanding! I hadn’t heard anything in all this time and didnt have anything to prove I paid it due to the time. When I rang, the girl on the phone said a warrant had been issued for my arrest! I therefore just paid the fine again. I wanted to know if this will show on my enhanced CRB check or not. I realise it isnt a criminal conviction however wanted to check.

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95. Ade says:

    December 14, 2010 at 1:10 pm

    I had a conviction in 1999 for which I served a 100 hours community service. My understanding is that the conviction has now been spent. I have had a sucessful career in the City and I am currently doing my MBA.
    I am now looking into applying for jobs abroad (Asia, Australia etc) but a question that keeps popping up is “Have you ever been convicted in a court of law in any country?”.
    What should I answer to this question?
    Will the embassies do a CRB check?
    Does having a criminal record (spent) mean I will be denied a working visa?
    Should I answer ‘No’ as my conviction is spent?
    Please help me.
    Thanks

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    • Anon says:

      December 19, 2010 at 5:50 pm

      Under the ROA act your conviction became spent in 2004 but really It’s a tricky one and very much dependent on the country you are going to.

      As I understand it, the US would require you to cough up convictions that are spent as well as unspent.

      However, Australia would require only a basic certificate so your con wouldn’t show.

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96. lol says:

    November 19, 2010 at 9:22 pm

    please help….my son got into alot of trouble when he was 15 and had a few convictions for assault on lads his own age but was not sent to prison,he is now 20 and has been out of trouble since 15.he has passed all his plumbing nvq2 and has worked for the same company since he was 16.they have now done a crb check which he did tell them about his past and have said they have to finish him as some of the jobs are in schools.he is gutted as he is not working alone with children or anything like that so why does he have to lose his job.he is even going to college at the moment doing his level 3 but is thinking af packing it in as he wont be able to do his plumbing job anywhere with another company.this seems so unfair

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    • Jasmine Birtles says:

      December 2, 2010 at 11:42 pm

      They seem to be applying it really harshly – I would ask whether the schools have made this stipulation, as there is such a thing as a spent conviction http://www.yourrights.org.uk/yourrights/privacy/spent-convictions-and-the-rehabilitation-of-offenders/how-a-conviction-becomes-spent.html

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97. barbara says:

    November 15, 2010 at 12:58 pm

    in 2001 i was cautioned for leaving my children in the care of a 14yr old girl while i went to get nappies, i stated this to the tutor of the nd in ccld course i applied to, and was excepted on, i retold her when we applied for the crb checks, we were then told we had cleared the crb check and could start our placements. when i recieved my copy of the crb, the caution was put down as: 1 caution wilfully assaulting/illtreating/neglecting child or young person. so i went to the college to query if i could do workplacement, i have since been told no i cannot do the course anymore, and i cant work with children or for caring for the elderly. is this correct?

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    • Jasmine Birtles says:

      December 2, 2010 at 11:41 pm

      Hi Barbara,
      Sorry for the delay – I have asked an HR professional about this and she says:
      “Initially I was surprised about this – a caution is defined as an instance where “it is not considered to be in the public interest to institute criminal proceeds” – it is a formal warning given to an adult who has admitted an offence. You don’t have to declare it if you are asked “Do you have a criminal record?” or even “Do you have a caution?” This is because all cautions are automatically spent. However, it may appear on a Standard CRB check, and is likely to appear on an Enhanced CRB check. Even after five to 10 years, the caution can still be disclosed if you apply for certain types of jobs, e.g. in the police force, as a teacher, or jobs working with children and vulnerable adults. It will be disclosed if it is relevant to the job you are applying for. So this would appear to be the sticking point.”

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      • Anon says:

        December 19, 2010 at 5:58 pm

        The field of work you wish to work in will always require an enhanced cert and under the legislation the disclosure system operates, your caution is, and will always be disclosable.

        PNC, under the current data retention rules laid down by ACPO, will continue to record your caution until you reach 100 years of age.

        In short, unless there is a change in either the disclosure legislation, or the PNC retention rules, your caution will always be disclosable so you’ll really need to be upfront with employers and find out what there policy toward it is.

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98. Allie says:

    October 18, 2010 at 11:22 am

    Hi, i have an enhanced crb going through at the moment and its been over 4 weeks, it states on the crb website that 90% are aimed to be completed in 4 weeks, trust me to be in the 10% thats not. I was just wondering if anyone knew how long they are taking at the moment, like what the turn around time of completion?? Thanks!!!!

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    • shaun says:

      October 26, 2010 at 4:52 pm

      Hi Allie,
      I hate to be the bringer of bad news but i submitted mine on the 15th August, The first three stages are straight forward, It is only when it reaches stage four ( police check) that this drags on. The police have had mine since the 26th August to present day, and despite two escalations that i have requested by the crb also a letter sent by them last Saturday, As yet i have heard nothing. Apparently the police have 10 days to comply after the sixty day period, Then if this is not complete by then they are advising that they will do it as soon as they can!! Be prepared for a long wait!!. Oh and by the way i have been advised that if i am a phillipino national i can have it fastracked within seven days!. Hope this helps.

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99. Kevin fairbairn says:

    October 5, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Hi,

    I received a caution for assault in April 06, I’ve been told I need to fill in a crb check form to help with my boys football team (under 8s) how long does the caution last and do u think it will affect my application?

    Any advice would help greatly
    Thanks

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    • bennodalove says:

      December 4, 2010 at 2:12 am

      The law changed in October 2009, so cautions/reprimands will stay on the police computer system forever. Whenever you are required to do a CRB check, the police will disclose it.

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100. Paul Manning says:

     September 13, 2010 at 4:40 pm

     I am thinking of retiring to the Philippines with my filipina wife. The Philippine Embassy want a CRB check as part of the application process. Obviously the Embassy will not do this on my behalf so does anyone know an Umbrella Organisation who can obtain the check for me?

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     • Jasmine Birtles says:

       September 14, 2010 at 11:55 am

       I have asked an HR specialist about this and she says: “As I understand it, an individual cannot make an application for a Disclosure directly, as the applicant cannot ask an exempted question of themselves. It is for the organisation asking the exempted question to assess an applicant’s suitability. If someone is self-employed, they can apply for a CRB check by registering with an agency, though this wouldn’t help in this case. You are able to make a “subject access” request to your local police force under the provisions of the Data Protection Act 1998, which will provide up-to-date details of any criminal records in the UK.”

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101. JM says:

     September 13, 2010 at 3:31 am

     Hello

     My daughter (5) has recently started at a new school where I would like to volunteer when I can. About 5 years ago I was issued a caution for what was suggested to be a domestic violence case – is this something that will appear when the school perform their CRB checks?

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     • Jasmine Birtles says:

       September 14, 2010 at 11:56 am

       I would doubt it since it was a caution rather than a conviction, and even if it were a conviction, they are “spent” at different durations.

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       • jolene says:

         December 1, 2010 at 8:54 pm

         A CRB check does show a caution and repremand even after so many years, if it is working with children it defo will.

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         • bennodalove says:

           December 4, 2010 at 2:13 am

           The law changed in October 2009, so cautions/reprimands will stay on the police computer system until the persons 100th birthday. Whenever you are required to do a CRB check, the police will disclose all cautions.

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102. JJ says:

     August 30, 2010 at 6:59 pm

     I had a conviction and recived a 4 month suspended sentence for 2 years, for overpayment, i want to start my own business and will be visiting schools on occasion, so need a crb this was 5 years ago next week will this show on my crb check if i apply after the 5 years.

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     • Simon Willmore says:

       September 6, 2010 at 11:55 am

       Hi JJ

       I would suggest speaking directly to The CRB Office – http://www.crb.homeoffice.gov.uk – and they should be able to help!

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103. Natasha says:

     August 28, 2010 at 3:51 pm

     Hi, I am applying for Camp America and as part of which will receive an Enhanced CRB check. I got a reprimand when I was 15 for a minor shoplifting offence (I took something worth £3.50, stupid I know) and was told by the police officers at the time that this would be wiped from my record when I turned 18 and I am now 19, nearly 20. I am worried as I have read others testimonials that this will still show up on my CRB and I may be denied a J-1 Visa to America and will not be able to go on Camp America, and it may also affect my training to be a teacher in later life. Is there any way to get a reprimand completely removed from your record?

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     • Simon Willmore says:

       September 6, 2010 at 11:52 am

       Hi Natasha

       I would suggest speaking directly to The CRB Office – http://www.crb.homeoffice.gov.uk – and they should be able to help!

       Reply
104. Dan says:

     August 24, 2010 at 11:26 am

     I am the Director of a CRB Umbrella body, Completely CRB. We are a company that carries out CRB checks on behalf of organisations.

     Most companies do not charge thier employees for CRB checks. Quite often agencies do as thier workers usually work on contracts for services, which is similar to being self employed.

     Both parties are sent a copy of the CRB (the applicant and the employer).

     Umbrella Bodies CAN carry out CRB checks for an individual as long as they are running thier own business and have a genuine reason to require a check according to CRB guidelines. This might include self employed taxi drivers or people running a care related business. It is at the discretion of the CRB umbrella company as to whether they are willing to carry out a check for such an individual.

     My company regularly carries out checks of this kind for people who need them. Completelycrb.co.uk Please let me know if we can help.

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     • Chris says:

       August 26, 2010 at 1:50 pm

       Dan
       You are breaking the CRB code of practice if you carry out CRB checks on self-employed individuals. The must ALWAYS be an ‘employer ‘ or ‘association’ who you report back to with the result of the disclosure.
       This is because, very occassionally, the CRB will have ‘additional’ information about an applicant that does not appear on their copy of the disclosure. This comes to you (as the Umbrella Body) in a separate letter & you must pass it on to the employer. You cannot share this information with the applicant (by law). If you did a disclosure for a self-employed person & then received serious additional information about that individual – where do you go with it? Potentially you could have a self-employed person with a clear disclosure & you’re holding very serious information about that individual & no ‘employer’ to report it to. Please check the CRB website for information on self-employed applicants. http://www.crb.homeoffice.gov.uk/faqs/top_10.aspx#CanIregisterwiththeISA

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105. Leah says:

     August 18, 2010 at 7:36 pm

     I have worked at a particular place for nearly 8 years now, for all previous CRB checks done the company has paid for them, last year we were taken over by a different company, I had to do another CRB check this year but the current company are making all emplyee’s pay for this! The only feedback is that employee’s have to pay for it as it is for them personally although you have to have one to work there and they do not accept any CRB’s done by other companies or one’s done while self employed etc. Does anyone know if this is A. allowed and B. If CRB’s are a personal document etc just a little baffled as to how this all works!!

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106. Carol Kent says:

     August 10, 2010 at 5:11 pm

     The CRB has had my form for five weeks and for four weeks and three days of this it has been waiting for the final check from the police search. Is there a time limit on this and if no why not? People are being held up and cannot start new jobs without this check having been completed.

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107. lauren says:

     August 4, 2010 at 12:10 am

     Hi if I want to do any teaching assistant roles paid or volunteering they all say I need a CRB check within the last 12 months. But I cannot apply myself for one so therefore cannot apply for any roles. Is there a way of getting around this. Could I pay an umbrella body to do the check and then they hold all the details so any possible employers can see my CRB because it has already been done.

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     • Jasmine Birtles says:

       August 5, 2010 at 2:06 pm

       Hello Lauren

       I have asked an HR friend about this and this is what she says: “he organisation they are doing it for should seek the check. They’ll either be registered to do it themselves or have an agreement with an umbrella organisation. Checks for volunteers are free of charge.”

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108. Kate says:

     August 3, 2010 at 5:13 pm

     Last year after returning from a celebratory dinner I received a Fixed Penalty Notice for being drunkenly sick on a railway platform in a town that has zero tolerance. It was a silly mistake as I hardly go out or drink heavily, the policewoman was very apologetic, but she had to issue the notice. I paid the £80 fine immediately and she said it would not show up on any records, I was devastated as I have worked in the legal profession for 13 years and have never been in trouble before. However, in January I obtained a Subject Access Request from the police to go volunteering abroad and the FPN showed up. I am about to apply for a job at a charity working with drug and alcohol abusers and they have asked for a CRB check. Will my FPN show up? I’ve been told disclosure is at the police forces discretion – is this true? Will all my future career paths be affected?

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     • Jasmine Birtles says:

       August 5, 2010 at 2:07 pm

       That sounds rotten Kate. This is what my HR friend says: “CRB disclosures do show up spent convictions. That’s why there are very strict rules around the sort of jobs you can get them for and who can see them etc. The point is that most organisations only take account of relevant convictions in terms of making the appointment decision. This is why only persons registered with the CRB should see the disclosure cert and why, at my company, for example, we have to shred them promptly and can only record a pass or fail – not the details of any convictions.”

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       • Lee says:

         September 7, 2010 at 3:03 pm

         Hi,

         As I understood the rules regarding CRB checks, you are not allowed to make any reference to the outcome of the check. A pass or fail would therefore not be acceptable. The only information you should retain is the Cert. Number and the name of the candidate. You can retain the Cert. for as long as is reasonable for any disagreements to be rectified, this is usually around 90 days. The Cert must also be kept in a separate lockable container which cannot be removed from the premises. It cannot be held in the same personnel file as the candidate’s other information.

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109. amanda says:

     July 22, 2010 at 5:28 pm

     i need help !!!!!!!!!! well advice

     i sent off for a c.r.b in june its been with the local police since 1st july and is still showing it is at stage 4, i could have started my new job supervised but my pova first check has sent back option 1( do not employ until c.r.b check has been received) when applying for this job i was told when i got the job to hand my notice in at my previous job so i did, i have now been outta work for 2 weeks no income coming in, 2 years ago i was working in a care home and there was allegations of neglect myself and a nurse was arresyed and questioned it all came back no further action i have been honest and told my new employer this , do you think this will appear on my check

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110. Lynn says:

     July 7, 2010 at 10:35 am

     We are about to start the process of fostering. My husband was in an argument with another man who was drunk and aggressive to me, my husband punched him and was charged with ABH this was in 1986. On the day he was due to appear in court the man dropped the charge and we received no further information about this. will it appear on his CRB check? He is really worried it will wreck our chances of becoming foster parents.

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111. Louise says:

     June 16, 2010 at 4:21 pm

     Hi
     Just to fill you in on latest progress. I posted a couple of weeks ago. My CRB has come back and it is clear. I was amazed it only took a week from it arriving at CRB. So doing the police access check was helpful because it confirmed what the CRB states. Thanks again for your help. Louise

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     • Luke says:

       August 22, 2010 at 11:56 am

       Hi Louise
       Your post gave me some hope.

       I am applying for a ten year visa to live abroad and I need a Subject Access thingie. 32 years ago I was a victim of police entrapment in a public lavatory a la George Michael (they used what were called “pretty police” in those days) and I was fined 50 pounds. “If you plead guilty, we’ll keep it out of the papers etc.”

       Now, I am worried witless that this will come back to haunt me a generation later when I have to submit my Subject Access for Visa approval. Especially as I am applying to live in a Islamic country, It is so unjust that these ‘offences’ can lie on the record and be revealed for purposes of getting a Visa to live outside the UK.

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       • Paul says:

         November 2, 2011 at 3:55 pm

         Same happened to me as writer #68 (reply 1 by Luke). I was caught in a similar homophobic sting back in 1994 in the toilets of a small market town and fined £250 for ‘soliciting for immoral purposes’. No straight person would, in practice, get done for that crime since the mindset wouldn’t have thought anything wrong about a man trying to hook up with a woman. I must emphasise no prostitution of any sort was implied or involved. I was caught cruising but was not having sex with anyone when arrested. A ‘pretty policeman’ hit on me in the agent provocateur routine that was common then. In every sense it was a victimless crime, whatever one’s personal views might be about gay sex or about the means of picking someone up to take them somewhere else in private. It wouldn’t happen now, not merely because I am that much older but also because networking opportunities are so different now because of the internet. I was told to plead guilty, pay the fine and that it would go away because it wouldn’t have got into the papers. That was true until the arrival of the CRB. I am facing a CRB check shortly for a job involving children and vulnerable adults. Since that means an enhanced check, does that mean I have to prepare for the worst? i.e. that my application will not be carried through? There was no question of either children or vulnerable adults being victims of any crime. The context is simply an outdated search for gay partners. What can I do about this? Will prospective employers take an outdated gay offence seriously? This is really embarrassing to me.

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112. Bekah Spencer says:

     June 10, 2010 at 9:33 pm

     4 years ago I was given a reprimand/caution/warning for theft from a shop (it was actually my friend that was doing it but as I was with her I was a accessory) I was 14 at the time and was told that this would be removed from my record at 17 and a half. I was recently offered employment at the prison near when I live, just in the cafeteria for visitors and they carried out a PNC on me and this offence has now come up and I have been refused employment, I am absolutely gutted as I was a juvenile and stupid at the time. Is this something that the company Aramark can refuse me employment on?? Many thanks.

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113. Louise says:

     June 1, 2010 at 10:38 am

     Hi
     I had a conviction in 1982 but I have done subject access that has come back clear. Also, in 2003 I had a clear enhanced crb. I am about to have another enhanced crb, will this come back clear.

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     • Jasmine Birtles says:

       June 1, 2010 at 2:30 pm

       Good question. there’s a possibility that it won’t because they have changed the criteria for what is reported and what is not. I have heard of people with convictions earlier than yours who have suddenly found that it was mentioned on a crb check where it wasn’t before. Might be a good idea to phone the crb people and ask.

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       • Louise says:

         June 1, 2010 at 5:48 pm

         Thanks very much.

         I have had a check done with the police and they say that there is no record of me on the police national computer. I wouldn’t mind but I never even did the crime but was accused and had a fine. Six months later somebody else admitted to it but I never did anything about it at the time because I was 17 and was told it would cost me to have it removed through the courts, didn’t think it would come back to haunt me.

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         • Jasmine Birtles says:

           June 1, 2010 at 8:43 pm

           Hmm, well if the police say that then you should be all right. Also, if it did come up then you can explain the situation. If someone else did admit to the crime then they will have a record of that. That should sort it out. Let us know if there is a problem though.

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           • Louise says:

             June 1, 2010 at 9:36 pm

             Thank you so much for all your help. I am taking my CRB form to be checked on Thursday. When I get it back I will let you know how I got on.
114. sarah says:

     April 13, 2010 at 8:57 pm

     hi,
     im about to start an apprentiship course in childcare and of course have to have a crb check done but they are sayng that i need to pay them to get a crb check done but as im a school leaver i dont have the funds.
     is there anyway i can go about this? any methods etc.

     thanx

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     • Jasmine Birtles says:

       April 18, 2010 at 8:24 pm

       Good question – as far as I know there isn’t a way you can get round it. It costs. However, different agencies seem to charge different amounts. My mother runs a nanny agency so I will ask her if she knows of agencies that charge less than others (she doesn’t do credit checks anymore I’m afraid). Jasmine

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115. deborah reynolds says:

     March 25, 2010 at 3:25 pm

     hi there, i had a crb check done in 2007,i started work for a care company whilst waitng on this check coming back.in 2003 i was taken to court by a lady i was caring for by another care company.i was accused of taking out money from her account,at the start of the court case i was found not guilty the lady in question did not turn up i was acquitted from this accusation but yet when i got my crb back what that happened with this lady is on my crb check is there anything i can do to have this removed

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     • j pidsley says:

       June 23, 2010 at 6:41 pm

       i sympathise with you very strongly on this,as the same happened to me,unfortunately as far as this issue is concerned the police and other bodies seem adamant you are guilty untill proved innocent,i was locked in a cell,interrogated,humilliated,
       and for a year i have tried to get this accusation off my crb,i even employed a barrister,and the best result i got was ….ok its off your crb now,but,its still on the database,lol.so what purpose does it serve and where is the logic?its as if to say ,if i accuse the police superintendant of theft and he is found not guilty he will still have this stain on his character,but u know what ,i bet the rules would become very different in this case,i have been out of work and unable to secure a job because of this for 12 months now,just because of the perverse way the so called law works

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116. lalit kumar kumbhani says:

     March 21, 2010 at 12:20 pm

     hi.
     i submited application for CRB check 0n 4th march 2010 by one recruitment agency.so how can i see that my crb will check out or not,and when i got copy of crb ,how long time tack for crb checking,
     i came in UK at 26 DEC2009, i have indian nationality.
     so ,pls reply to me,
     Many thanks.

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     • Leanne says:

       March 21, 2010 at 3:39 pm

       Hello Lalit
       The CRBs take at least seven weeks to process.
       The CRB will be sent to you and a copy will be sent to the agency. Everyone has to wait a long time but it will be good when it arrives

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117. Jummy says:

     March 6, 2010 at 10:54 pm

     I did 40hrs community service 11 years ago for shoplifting. I’ve worked at my current job (Secretary at NHS) for 13 years. Manager now wants to do a CRB check and has given me the form to fill. Will this show up? Can I be fired? I don’t work directly with vulnerable adults or children.

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118. Julie says:

     February 27, 2010 at 2:24 pm

     Hi, I have a CRB check that was done a few months ago with my current employer. it shows that i have a conviction for theft (during an incident that happened during an upsetting time when i was getting divorced in 2001-3) it clearly shows a court case covering 2 and a half years. I was convicted of theft and had a sentance of 1 year imprisonment, which I served 7 weeks of before being released on licence. it was a one off incident. I work for a training provider as an assessor and deal with adults in their workplace. I told my current employer I had a record and they accept the CRB check and never asked me about it when it came in.

     I have applied for a new job, again as an assessor and was wondering if they can exclude me from this job because I have a record for theft?

     Any advice gratefully received
     thanks

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     • Jasmine Birtles says:

       February 27, 2010 at 10:52 pm

       Hi Julie,

       It’s tricky to answer you as I don’t know all the details of your conviction or what your job is now. However, check out the government site which deals specifically with this issue http://careersadvice.direct.gov.uk/helpandadvice/exoffenders/disclosure/. It’s really helpful and should have the answer to your questions. Hope it helps.

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119. Sara Owen says:

     February 12, 2010 at 10:14 pm

     We are a small playgroup with 3 staff who run the sessions three times a week less than 2hrs per session. The staff are paid and the sessions charged for but as we are a small charitable group are not sure where we stand on CRB or ISA checks? Do we need to have these done and if so how do we go about it?
     Cheers

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120. emma says:

     February 1, 2010 at 12:20 am

     need help?
     hi there,
     I have just been on a step into childcare course through sure start. and now that it has finished I have found a placement in a local school which has a nursery, as I want to be a nursery nurse. so I can do my nvq there over 16 hours per week and an assessor will come out to me and asses me, which is good but I need a crb check and the school wont pay and sure start wont pay ether so how do I get one should one of them pay or me. I am a volunteer I don’t get paid
     thanx Emma

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     • Jean Birtles says:

       February 1, 2010 at 3:38 pm

       Hi Emma
       At Top Notch Nannies we go to:
       Bligh Appointments
       70 North End Road
       W14 9EP
       Opposite West Kensington Underground
       Telephone:0207 603 6123

       They charge £40 per CRB

       Hope you find that helpful

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       • emma says:

         February 1, 2010 at 10:46 pm

         thank you Jean
         Emma

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     • Leanne says:

       February 1, 2010 at 4:59 pm

       Hi Emma,

       As a volunteer you CRB is free. The following off the CRB website.
       “To apply for this type of a “free of charge” Disclosure the Countersignatory must:

       Satisfy themselves that the person meets the criteria; and
       Ensure that the position applied for in section B18 describes the role of the applicant e.g. “Sunday School Teacher” DO NOT just use the word “Volunteer”; and
       Place a cross [X] in the volunteer box in section Y8 on the application form. Failure to do so will result in the relevant fee being charged; and
       If your organisation has Payment on Account, DO NOT cross out the [X] in the POA box, but place a cross [X] in the box Y8 marked “Volunteer – no payment due”.

       I think you can apply for the CRB through the school but ensure you tick the “volunteer box”

       Hope this helps.

       Leanne

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       • emma says:

         February 1, 2010 at 10:48 pm

         thank you leanne
         I thought it was free
         Emma

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121. barbara cherry says:

     January 17, 2010 at 8:21 pm

     If I have a crb check passed with one employer would it still be valid with another employer or would I have to have a new crb check done if, for instance I worked for 3 care homes, doing the same work, and moving from one to another home with no breaks and within a 3 month period? ie – are crb checks only valid for one employer and period of employment?

     Similarly, if I was involved in agency work where I was working for more than one agency and more than one employer – would I have to have a crb check for each agency and employer even though it covered the same period?

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     • Jasmine Birtles says:

       January 18, 2010 at 12:15 pm

       Hi Barbara. I asked Leanne at Top Notch Nannies (www.topnotchnannies.com) and she said this: “To the best of my knowledge CRB are specific to a particular employer. My other half has had to have a CRB issued by the school and one issued by the church as they fall in different boroughs. Generally they are valid for a period of 1 year. Each care home would have to do a new CRB check at the start of employment.”
       “Yes. I know that some agencies are happy to use the CRB check issued by another agency as this saves them having to do it themselves. However if you are working with children and vulnerable adults you will need to have a POCA(Protection of Children Act) and POVA(Protection of Vulnerable Adults) check done.”

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     • Jean Birtles says:

       February 1, 2010 at 3:51 pm

       Hello Barbara
       Sadly the answer is not straightforward! If you are going for temp. jobs then one CRB check can go with you, but if you go for a Permanent job the new employer MIGHT ask for a new CRB. The situation seems to vary among employers. If you work in Care Homes then each #home usually expect a new CRB.

       Best wishes

       Jean

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122. elaine says:

     November 26, 2009 at 2:46 pm

     I agreed to an enhanced CRB check for a careres job, it came back clear but i decided job was not for me! they have sent me a bill of £46 for the CRB check, on calling CRB was told it was £36? My question is and I need to be accurate on this! is am I legally required to pay this? and if so, do I have to pay £46 or £36 only? I realy dont need guessing on this. Does anyone know 100% who is legally responsible for the payment. Especialy as I dont want the job…

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     • Jasmine Birtles says:

       December 1, 2009 at 10:08 pm

       Hi Elaine, I’ve asked an HR professional about this and her answer is: “I think that should she ever wish to work for this company again, she pay it but if she doesn’t want to work for them, I don’t see how they could get her to pay, unless it was through the small claims court. I would need a bit more detail, like timeframes, but it’s more of a legal one.”

       Hope that helps!

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123. Linda Gerrard says:

     November 13, 2009 at 2:00 pm

     I would like to get a CRB check done as I teach singing to children privately in my home. How can I go about this?

     Thanks for your help.

     Linda Gerrard

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     • Jasmine Birtles says:

       November 13, 2009 at 9:05 pm

       You can get an agency to do the check for you – there’s a list on the CRB website. Here’s the link http://www.crb.homeoffice.gov.uk/faqs/umbrella_bodies.aspx
       for example, this company http://www.ddc.uk.net/

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124. george says:

     November 6, 2009 at 12:07 am

     I applied for CRB in july unfortunately I have not received the feed back yet how longer should I still wait

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     • Jasmine Birtles says:

       November 11, 2009 at 4:06 pm

       I think you should phone up and ask. It can’t harm!

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125. Angela Haylock says:

     October 20, 2009 at 10:07 am

     The group itself should get everyone to have a check done as a matter of course if they regularly work with children and young people.

     If it is a one off that you are working with children and young people then possibly not., although it is seen as good practice for you to do them.

     If you are unpaid then yes you are a volunteer and in theory your check is FREE, but if you need to do these through another agency they may add on an admin fee.

     For a list of agencies who can check you see http://www.crb.gov.uk look under umbrella bodies.

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126. James Randall says:

     October 14, 2009 at 7:57 am

     Good news spoke to the CRB people and they say it is not a legal requirement ot have one (despite what we read) we can carry on supplying our services responsibly and not disappoint our juniors. This still leaves us out of the loop and relying on our own practices. It would be good to share our methods with others and even set up our own group to cover this area contact octojim@myhandle.com

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     • Angela Haylock says:

       October 20, 2009 at 10:11 am

       Yes I agree it is not, at present, a legal requirement to have a CRB, although it is considered good practice.

       With the Vetting and Barring scheme starting to get individuals to register from July 2010 it WILL become a legal requirement for anyone (paid or unpaid), to register themselves on the database if they have regular contact.

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127. Nigel Kelly says:

     October 13, 2009 at 5:21 pm

     Hi all

     I am hoping to start my own part-time business being a clown/kid’s entertainer. One slight problem, I have a conviction for assualt (a moment of drunken madness). Would I be better off not pursuing my goal? I’m not sure where I stand on this important issue.

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     • Jasmine Birtles says:

       November 11, 2009 at 4:06 pm

       It would depend if the conviction is spent, and whether the assault was on a child. If it’s on an adult that won’t be so much of a problem. It’s worth trying anyway.

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128. James Randall says:

     October 4, 2009 at 6:55 pm

     Hi
     I run an underwater hockey junior team and have been doing so for 12 years, a result of which both my Son and Daughter play for GB squads as do 2 of our other players, they are now in their 20′s but we have an ongoing youth program. We are not a registered organisation as we are too small, and only volunteers. we monitor helpers by having no one in a vulnerable situation without being observed. I have a CRB check from being an emergency response volunteer but trips to the police station and viewing the mass of unfriendly web sites has led nowhere Our funds are small and even our national body the BOA (www.gbuwh.co.uk) are not large enough too offer checks. If there are too many hoops we are going to close and disappoint many young people. What do we do?

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     • Angela Haylock says:

       October 20, 2009 at 10:02 am

       The CRB says that anyone (paid or unpaid), working with children, young people or vulnerable adults should undertake a check if they work 3 days or more in any 30 day period. This will be the same when the new Vetting and Barring scheme starts asking for individuals to register from July 2010 (new entrants), or April 2011 for current workers.
       CRB checks are NOT portable and need to get one for each organisation you work for.
       http://www.crb.gov.uk has a list of umbrella bodies who can assist you with your checks.

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129. deborah sumner says:

     September 25, 2009 at 2:37 pm

     What I would like to know is what happens if you have lived abroad for 2 yrs previous in an EU country, does the form have to be checked in the relevent country also?

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     • Tessa says:

       December 7, 2011 at 9:34 pm

       I am moving back to the UK to work as a registered nurse in January. I am joining a british nursing agency and they have said they can’t start the CRB check until they see me at an appointment in person. Then the enhanced CRB will take 4 to 6 weeks. During which time I can’t work as a nurse. Is there anyway around this. Can I start the CRB from abroad.

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130. lily says:

     September 21, 2009 at 9:01 am

     hi there, i have been searching for information on how to get a CRB if you are self emplyed and Umberella organisations CANNOT request them on behalf of the self employed. it needs to be done by a trade association or agency that employs or accredits you.

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131. Lejla says:

     May 11, 2009 at 1:05 pm

     Interesting what you say on disclosure because on the CRB web site they state that individuals should be sent a copy of the records by the checking body.

     Which one is true now?

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132. clare mm says:

     May 1, 2009 at 8:18 pm

     I am unable to fully agree with the above. The Metropolitan police have a target of 100% in 60 days and last month dropped to completing only 39% in this time frame. Given that the both the CRB and my PCT created a 4 week delay due to their own admin error i have now waited 11 weeks, salary free and at risk of losing both home and job. The police are swamped. They deal with checks in date order only so it makes no difference that I have been at my address for 12 years, am a crime-free UK national and have worked in the NHS for the majority of this time too. I only went on maternity leave but a i return to a different post so need the check again. I think it is faster elsewhere in the country but that really doesn’t do me any good, like a lot of people, i live in London.

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